ASH Review: Epcoritimab + R-Squared

 OK, SH is over, and it's time to continue to look at some of the presentations that made some noise. We already looked at some of the FL presentations that got some attention (those presentations on diet and blood cancer had some people talking on Twitter/X). 

So now it's time to look at the presentations that are getting attention after the meeting is over. 

Let me first respond to a comment from a reader named Peter, who wrote about my post on the "triumph" of Tasafitamab. He wrote "I’m always a bit skeptical of headlines that use superlatives (like “triumph”), especially when they’re from less scientifically rigorous sources (like fiercepharma)....A good mantra I learned to repeat to myself, back when I was first getting diagnosed and learning about lymphoma, is “if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is”. I found it the best way to try to control my own confirmation bias."

Amen to that. And it is with Peter's words echoing that I present to you "342 Fixed-Duration Epcoritamab + R² Drives Deep and Durable Responses in Patients with Relapsed or Refractory Follicular Lymphoma: 2-Year Follow-up from Arm 2 of the Epcore NHL-2 Trial." 

This presentation looks at data from a phase 1b/2 clinical trial. (This means they have combined the phase 1 study, which focuses on safety, and the phase 2 study, which focuses on effectiveness -- they use many of the same patients rather than having to start a whole new trial). There were 111 patients in the trial, and they received the bispecific antibody Epcoritamab as well as the combination R-Squared (Rituxan + Revlimid, also known as Ledalidomide). The patients all had relapsed or refractory disease (their last treatment didn't work or had stopped working). 

The results were very good -- the patients had an Overall Response Rate of 96%, and a Complete Response Rate of 87%. That's pretty great. The treatment worked well no matter what the patients' treatment history was. Patients with POD24 had a CRR of 79%, for example. After a median follow up of 24 months, an estimated 69% of patients were still responding to the treatment, and 75% of those with a Complete Response had maintained their Complete Response.

The researchers note that the study took place during the Covid pandemic, and 57% of patients reported getting Covid at some point, resulting in a number of health problems, though there were no Covid-related decisions to stop Epcoritamab.  The most common side effects were were neutropenia (62%) and Cytokine Release Syndrome (51%). At a median of 25.3 months, 17 patients (15%) were still on the treatment; 41 patients (37%) had completed treatment as it was described in the study description; and 53 (48%) had stopped treatment for several reasons: 18 of them had their disease progress, 22 had severe side effects, 7 withdrew from the study on their own, 1 died, one left because of Covid, and 4 left becuase of a doctor's decision.

So why the "If it's too good to be true, it probably is" attitude? 

A lot of the post-meeting analysis will come in the next few weeks or months, at least from oncologists and oncology-focused web sites. The more immediate analysis come from other web sites, and that's where almost all of the news that I got about this presentation came from, namely, finance and investment web sites.

In other words, at least immediately after the ASH meeting, the folks who are most excited about this are the ones who will make some money off of it. 

I've struggled with this for years, and in the United States, we're in the middle of a very controversial situation that is related to it. I won't get into that, because I don't think I can describe my feelings about it very well. 

But I also have to have a little skepticism about the excitement that a new treatment regiment is generating based mostly on a press release from the company that has developed it. It might very well be one of the ASH presentations that oncologists are excited about, and that they'll discuss elsewhere. But I'm going to hold off on my excitement until then, especially given that almost half of the trial participants dropped out before they finished. In their abstract conclusion, the researchers point out that there are no new side effects, compared to the Epcoritamab trial that resulted in its being approved for FL by the FDA and the EU. (And despite there being some safety concerns about Epcoritamab, too.) A few people are talking about it online, but no one is really bursting with excitement.

The clinical trial had a few arms, so there were patients who received Epcoritamab and B-R, for example. It will be interesting to see what oncologists have to say about all of it in the next few weeks and months. I'll keep you posted.

In the meantime, be the good critical thinkers that you are. Stay hopeful, but realistic.